A Bit or Twenty About My Political Views

[this is an excerpt from a private conversation with a friend, who wish to remail anonymous, I think]

This is a much more civilzed conversation, but I really do prefer to have these conversations in public, as, you know…I’m a struggling writer. Really struggling.

To summarize…I’m not a Democrat and don’t follow their agenda. I saw Obama admitted a mistake with Dashle, which is why I like Obama. Bush couldn’t think of a mistake he made after four years…which was a sad joke.

I think both Cavuto and Olbermann are loud mouthed windbags who treat politics like college football. Cavuto is damn near retarded and Olbermann is a pompous windbag.

I enjoy watching and responding to, the Sunday morning talkers. NPR is one of the better sources of info. I usually scan Google News, which is run by an AI and then research from there to do my writing.

I don’t think News and Opinion should be mixed, which is why I think Fox, MSNBC, CNN, etc. are a joke. Cronkite could say more with the raise of an eyebrow than most of these modern schlubs can say with a ten minute rant. All of them are first and foremost a BUSINESS and in the media game to make money. They are not after Truth, at all, they go after ratings, which is why they suck.

I blame Bush and Cheney for making a series of huge strategic blunders that pushed our country to bankruptcy. That was the goal of AQ, BTW, to bankrupt the country. It worked. Bush is an anti-intellectual fool who picked party over principle again and again and again. He picked image over substance and should be in jail for endorsing and pushing torture.

Morals are still important. 9/11 didn’t change that. We’ve killed tens, if not hundred of thousands of innocent people in response. That, I feel, is very immoral.

I’m against torture because I have friends in the military. I also believe in the Golden Rule, as it has been “discovered” by every major religion on the planet. If one endorses torture for others, they endorse it for their friends. I don’t want anyone tortured and think there are much better ways to get information. Study how we “interrogated” German and Japanese Generals during WWII for some good examples.

I can, and have, sat down with people, been honest with them, and have had them telling me their secrets in under 20 minutes. Torture only makes people tell their torturers what the tortoree thinks their torturers want to hear. It’s not a good avenue to get at the truth. It’s torture, and it’s wrong. No matter who does it. Jack Bauer is a fictional character and a number of lecturers at the U.S. War College had to make a public statement about it, because of bunch of keyboard commandos think we should torture more people.

It won’t work, and you also might want to read up on the Japanese we executed for war crimes after they water-boarded Americans. It’s just not right. We’ll have to agree to disagree on that one.

As Martin Luther King said, “An injustice anywhere is an injustice everywhere.” He got assassinated for that view.

I’m not a big fan of Clinton. He sold his soul to be President. Watch, or read “Primary Colors” to see how that worked.

I’m currently reading McClellen’s book on Bush, and consider it to be one of the more accurate readings on what went on in that White House.

I’ve also read two of Obama’s books, and consider him to be a very intelligent, very well read, and very good leader. I don’t agree with the Limbaughian traitorous stance that seems to be dominating the GOP. I also think “Joe the Plumber” is a tard and have written extensively about him.

I’m curious about your view of Islam, which I have a great deal of respect for, and am also critical of in my book.

BTW, would you like to buy a book? I hate to give my writings aways for free to people, as I believe them to have real value. I am an independent thinker, and wish to stay that way.

Regardless, I hope this finds you well. And I VERY MUCH appreciate the more respectful tone this conversation now has.

Peace,
-Roy

Mormons get off on Hating Fags

Yea, sorry about that title, Mom.  And brother.  And sisters.  And nieces.  And nephews.  And grandma.  And grandpa.  And “1st” cousins 1-68 (no, I’m not joking).  My apologies to you all.

Y’all are a bunch of bigots.

This is why I don’t hang with you folks nearly as much as I’d like to.  That hurts me.  A lot.

But the rest of my family is much larger, even if they don’t know it.  Regardless, at times likes like….and by times like this….I mean times like this….

Here are just a few of the attempts to get me to see reason.

“Are you a member or not? Do you want gays to get married in the temple? Please follow the brotheren’s [sic] council [sic] on Proposition 8. This is a important gospel principal [sic].” G., e-mail.

“No unclean thing can enter the house of the Lord. Gays are unclean because of the Scriptures. You have to be hot or cold about it or the Lord will spat you out.” T., e-mail.

“Were you listening in church when the letter was read from the First Presidency about supporting proposition eight?” R.Y., e-mail.

“Get with Prop 8 or your [sic] a homo.” Anonymous.

……ya’ll annoy the ever-living shit out of me.

O.k. those are arguments this guy got, and not me personally, but the point stands rather firm.

In order for me personally to properly address this situation, I need to share an anecdote, some scientific research, and then one of my favorite quotes from C.S. Lewis, author of The Narnia Chronicles and hardcore Christian.

I. THE ANECDOTE

So I didn’t get the emails or the forwards, but I did hear the argument that gays would “sue” to get access to get married in “The Temple” if they weren’t specifically prohibited from marrying.  I’ve had 2 sisters and 1 brother get married in “The Temple”.   You know how many of those marriages I was at?  0.  Nada.  When a family member, who’s an ordained Elder BTW, can’t even get access, it’s insane to think someone is going to go through all the hoops necessary to gain access only to try and break the rules.

There is no court in the country that is going to order a religion to allow someone to do something against their rules, on their property, in their building, with their sacred rites.  It’s absolutely ridiculous to think it’s even possible, but that’s exactly what a few million people were told, and believed absolutely.

There’s only one reason to look down on another group, and cause them such pain.  And it’s not self-preservation.

II. THE SCIENTIFIC RESEARCH

“Aggressive adolescents showed a specific and very strong activation of the amygdala and ventral striatum (an area that responds to feeling rewarded) when watching pain inflicted on others, which suggested that they enjoyed watching pain,” researcher Jean Decety, a professor in psychology and psychiatry at the University of Chicago, said in a university news release. “Unlike the control group, the youth with conduct disorder did not activate the area of the brain involved in self-regulation (the medial prefrontal cortex and the temporoparietal junction).”

III. THE C.S. LEWIS QUOTE

“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. They may be more likely to go to Heaven yet at the same time likelier to make a Hell of earth. This very kindness stings with intolerable insult. To be ‘cured’ against one’s will and cured of states which we may not regard as disease is to be put on a level of those who have not yet reached the age of reason or those who never will; to be classed with infants, imbeciles, and domestic animals.”

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In other words….

Y’all need to back to fuck up, and take a moment to check yourself. I don’t recall a lot of sermons from El Christo about hating the fags and making laws against them.  Even in that crazy whacked out part when he appears to the “jewish indians” in the New World for a few days.

UPDATE: Olbermann puts it a bit more eloquently.   Oh, and Keith.  I don’t know if you were just playing at being ignorant, but at the beginning of your rant, you say you don’t know why they were pushing so hard to take these rights away….if you read the paragraphs above, that part should be cleared up.

To put it in simplistic Donny Darko terms, they were motivated by Fear, not Love.

What’s the saying, “inasmuch as ye have done this to the least of these my brethren, it is as if ye have done it unto me.”  Riiight.  Don’t y’all understand how this stuff works yet?

Oh, and Keith, this “not voting to display my impartiality, but I would vote if it *really* mattered” bullshit is just that.  Essentially what you’ve just done is recommend a whole bunch of people do something that you yourself felt beneath you.  C’mon dude, don’t lose that big head in the clouds.  You’ve already started plumping up nicely, don’t make that fat head thing literal.