Hope and Change vs Gloom and Doom

Most of Obama’s voters — 73 percent — say they are voting “for” him rather than “against” Romney (23 percent). The reverse is true among Romney backers: 54 percent say their support is more “against” Obama rather than “for” Romney (40 percent).

The poll also indicates why Republicans are going after low-information voters.  These are the ones that think approving a pipeline that will ship  oil out of the country will somehow lower prices here.

Update:  This has been flowing around…but recall what was said a mere four years ago…

Update2: The White House put up this page.   The most important graph, which is hidden about halfway down is the “Global Oil Consumption” one.  That’s the pressure on the demand side.  On the supply side, we have the Iranian tough talk campaign applying pressure, as noted here.

I’d also wager, rather safely, that oil company profits, when reported, will once again be approaching record territory.   A populace squeezed at the pump is looking to point a finger, and one particular media company in particular is more than happy to do so with every outlet at their disposal.   They do, falsely claiming the same thing was done four years ago.  I’ve already provided evidence that  it is they who have changed their story.

Now let’s see how many gullible folks they convince that while they were wrong then, they are dead-on right now, and gas prices are  actually singularly controlled by the President.  Probably with a little lever or dial.


Fox News Poll: President Obama Tops Republican Contenders In Matchups | Fox News
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/03/14/fox-news-poll-president-obama-tops-republican-contenders-in-matchups/

Fox Even Lies About Their Own Polls (re: Stimulus)

Check this out, couldn’t hardly believe it…

American voters overwhelmingly believe the economy stinks, and there’s little belief that the stimulus plan was effective. In addition, most voters favor a balanced budget amendment — except if it means program cuts or new taxes.

These are just some of the findings from a Fox News poll released Thursday.

 There’s so much derp in this poll it’s kinda sad, but this one is…wow.   It’s been a Republican mantra and oft-repeated assertion that the “stimulus failed” or it was a “failed stimulus”.  Those two words are *ALWAYS* together when the efforts taken to stabilize the economy are summarized to a linguistic shorthand.   The problem with the Republican assertion is that the vast majority of independent economists not paid by Republicans, but who understands what the stimulus did, don’t actually agree with them.
So they do this poll.  And make that assertion.. “there’s little belief that the stimulus plan was effective.”
Here’s the number they use to support it…”Meanwhile, less than a third think the stimulus plan has helped the economy (29 percent).”
But according to the poll results themselves, guess what there is EVEN LITTLER BELIEF IN….
Do you think the federal government’s 2009 economic stimulus plan has helped the economy, hurt the economy, or not made much of a difference either way?
Helped:  29%
Hurt: 23%
No difference: 46%
(Don’t know): 2%
Yes, that’s right, more people think it helped than hurt.   Not only that, but as time goes on, and more people actually go beyond the talking points to see what happened, there is a marked shift from that “no difference” column to the “helped” one.   It should also be noted that those saying “no difference”, are actually in the Stimulus working column, as the point was to keep us out of a depression (getting back into solid growth would have taken a larger package, probably double the size of the $878B).
So anyway, Fox even spin their own polls in ways that make little sense in the overall context .   And it’s done to, as much as possible, reinforce Republican talking points.You can also see the stats that many Republicans will be pushing over the next few days, the 72% support for a “Balanced Budget Amendment” The fact that this support drops to the low 30’s when even the barest sense of what theoretical steps it would take to balance it, is one of those quibbling details that doesn’t need to be mentioned, and likely will not be.NOTE:  If anyone has Dana Blanton of Fox News’s email address please send it to me.  I would like to ask her the reasoning behind her statements, but Fox doesn’t have easy contact info.

Obama’s Death Panels (much like himself) Gaining Popularity (UPDATE: Texas Connection)

Kinda figured this would happen when government troops didn’t start showing up and killing old people like we were repeatedly warned…

The poll finds that 40 percent of those surveyed said they support the law, while 41 percent oppose it. Just after the November congressional elections, opposition stood at 47 percent and support was 38 percent.

As for repeal, only about one in four say they want to do away with the law completely. Among Republicans support for repeal has dropped sharply, from 61 percent after the elections to 49 percent now.

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I wonder if all this “will of the American people” talk from the Republicans hoping to kill the recently passing and increasingly popular legislation (and that’s not rhetoric, they put the word “kill” in the title of their repeal effort) takes into account new information like this poll. 

After the election, and with more time and familiarity, I’d say this poll is more accurate than those taken during the heat of battle.  And given how much the numbers have changed in such a short time (and those are pretty big changes), I wouldn’t be surprised if HCR ends up as popular as the two other programs that keep this country from falling apart (or at least keep the fallen off the streets, eating, clothed and sheltered).   Which is to say, it will likely become a 3rd rail of American politics like Medicare and SS (and like how healthcare is in every other first world country).

Obama’s numbers are also up sharply after leading Congress to a “lame-duck” compromise on a number of issues. (I don’t like that term, BTW. I think it’s lame, way overused and was completely inaccurate this year, as the LD session of Congress got waaay more done than the others).

At the same time, 48 percent of American voters approve of how the president is doing his job, up from 42 percent the month before. Forty-three percent disapprove, down from 50 percent.

Similarly, 53 percent of voters have favorable opinions of Obama, up from 47 percent, and 40 percent have unfavorable opinions, down from 49 percent.

Looking forward, 61 percent of voters think the president will do a better job in the second two years of his term, while just 21 percent think he’ll do a worse job.

Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/01/13/2014972/poll-obama-rebounding-with-voters.html#ixzz1BKPlFVW8

So the President is gaining popularity (which hit a pretty solid bottom of 42% or so bottom and didn’t go lower) and there is more hope for better change over the next two years.  This is largely because American voters love compromise (even if most are largely ignorant on what that actual compromise entails)…
In the capital’s changed political landscape, those surveyed are looking for things to get done:
 
• Eighty percent say the president should work to pass legislation Democrats and Republicans can agree on, even if it’s not what most Democrats want. Even 70% of Democrats feel that way.
 
• Eighty-three percent say it’s extremely or very important for House Republicans to pass legislation that both parties can agree on, including 77% of Republicans.
 
So we see the President, a largely centrist pragmatist with liberal aspirations, making deals right along those lines and the country largely agreeing with him.
 
In 2010, we saw the midterm election happen, with the big lie winning out.   In 2011 we started off in a horrific direction, but perhaps we can see a better political climate come out of it.  One where the facts of the matter are the important part of the debate, and not something to find out after the dust has settled.
 
In such an environment, Obama will shine, much like he did on the stage in Tucson.

UPDATE:  Texas, bastion of Tea Party opposition to HCR, is setting up insurance exchanges (one of the hallmark ways HCR expands coverage (and nixes lifetime caps and pre-existing condition exclusions)  while keeping prices in check).   Love the quote…

“My opposition to the federal health care reforms is no secret, and I continue to support Attorney General Greg Abbott’s efforts to have the law declared unconstitutional,” he said.

“But the ‘connector concept’ has been around for decades and did not originate with Obamacare,” Zerwas said. “Quite frankly, it is something that we should consider on its own merits regardless of the fate of the federal reforms.”

Under the federal law, state exchanges will require insurers to compete in offering standard coverage in five categories. The idea is to make it easier for consumers to compare policies and prices. Exchanges also will help administer federal subsidies to low- and moderate-income individuals and families buying coverage.

“I completely hate this law and want it repealed…but it is filled with very good ideas people have been trying to implement for decades.”

Give it enough time and the truth does eventually get its shoes on and catches up.