The Panderific Rand “Pander” Paul Gears up for 2016

January 6, 2015   Rand Paul is working hard to polish his pro-Israel credentials.

Hours before meeting on Tuesday with some of the nation’s most influential and well-heeled Jewish GOP donors—including billionaire Sheldon Adelson—Paul introduced his second bill in as many years to cut off American foreign aid to the Palestinian government.

The “Defend Israel by Defunding Palestinian Foreign Aid Act of 2015” would cut off funding for the Palestinian government so long as it seeks recognition in the International Criminal Court, according to a Paul aide. The measure comes in addition to Paul’s “Stand with Israel Act,” introduced last year, which would end U.S. aid until the Palestinian Authority agreed to a cease-fire and recognized the state of Israel.

via Rand Paul Offers Another Pro-Israel Bill to Cut Palestinian Aid – NationalJournal.com.

It would be harder to find a more disingenuous  politicians than Rand Paul. Not only has he been busted for plagiarizing, he’s been busted for pandering before too.

His dad was crazy and had ideas that had already been tried and failed spectacularly, but at least he had some integrity (well, outside the whole denying the newsletters with his name and signature on them).  Hrrm…on second thought, he is a fitting son.

I don’t think he’ll do much in the 2016 primaries, there are faaar too many issues where he panders the wrong way for the Teahadi base.   As a matter of fact, I kind of wonder why he’s even mentioned in the Presidential discussions.   I guess it’s a holdover from his dad running for like 20 years.

The ReLOVEultion of Ron Paul is Over. Finally.

Ron Paul

Most members of Congress leave politics with a few new laws to their credit if they are lucky, former Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX), however, can take credit for reviving generations worth of terrible ideas and building a national movement behind his poor grasp of the Constitution and basic economics. Paul believes the Departments of Energy, Education, Agriculture, Commerce, Health and Human Services, Homeland Security and Labor are all unconstitutional — as are Social Security and Medicare, which he compared to “slavery.” He would return to the gold standard. And he thinks states can simply nullify federal laws they don’t feel like following. Yet it is a testament to the grip Paul has on America’s lunatic fringe that his supporters will whip themselves into a frenzy every time anyone dares to question his ill-considered views. Don’t believe us? Just wait and see what they write in comments on this very post.

via Ten People We Are Grateful Are No Longer Members Of Congress | ThinkProgress.

The amount of love for this guy is inversely proportional to the rationality of most of his beloved “freedoms”.

The sick thing is the large proportion of people who support him but have no idea that most of his policies ideas have been tried, failed miserably, and were replaced.   It is a testament to his passion that he can stick with sooo many failed policy ideas and convince others they haven’t been tried and haven’t already failed.

But then again, we’ve always known politicians were good at fleecing fools.

And Ron’s has been one most of his adult life.  I hope he enjoys his retirement, and it last a long time. I also fervently hope he continues to rail against “dynasty” politicians so his idiot son also gets to retire, and live off his generous government pension, instead of being a living testament to Paul’s hypocrisy.

Fourth Place Candidate who has yet to win a single state, plans to use shadowy backroom deals to stay relevant

“Our people are in the right places. They’re doing the things to become delegates,” [Ron] Paul said on CNN’s “Piers Morgan Tonight,” adding that it was too soon in the process to “write anybody off.”

While the Texas congressman has yet to win a contest in the GOP primary, he has so far picked up 71 delegates, according to CNN’s latest estimate. The number puts Paul in a distant fourth place in the delegate count, as front-runner Mitt Romney has 569, Rick Santorum comes in second with 262 and Newt Gingrich has 136 delegates.

I’m pretty sure the right thing to do was to get people to vote for you…not try to work the system behind the scenes. 
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Paul: Don’t Count Me Out | FOX8.com – Cleveland news & weather from WJW Television FOX 8
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Why RON PAUL won’t ever get above 10-12% support

NPR.org » Ron Paul Proposes $1 Trillion In Cuts His First Year In White House http://m.npr.org/story/141443375?url=/blogs/itsallpolitics/2011/10/17/141443375/ron-paul-proposes-1-trillion-cut-his-first-year-in-white-house

“The other candidates have not offered this. I think they don’t think it’s very serious. They think we can just tinker around the edges. But I think the American people are ready for some honest thinking and some honest reforms. A lot of people would say this is pretty extreme, pretty excessive. But I go back to say we have had extreme spending, extremism in the growth of our government. And it’s time now that we say we have to cut.” Many Republicans have long advocated pulling the plug on the Education Department. But Paul, a libertarian congressman from Texas would go much further, ending not just that department but Commerce, Interior, Energy and HUD departments. According to his website, he’s also proposing: … Abolishing the Transportation Security Administration and returning responsibility for security to private property owners, abolishing corporate subsidies, stopping foreign aid, ending foreign wars, and returning most other spending to 2006 levels.

Every single Republican candidate wants to deal with the deficit by cutting taxes.  And also wants to deal with high unemployment by cutting spending (on labor).

I think there should be a ‘math’ section for tonight’s debate.

Ron Paul Dead Wrong about Charity Covering Medical Costs for Uninsured

So for those that missed it, there is currently a guy running for President under the Republican banner that would rather sit and watch his fellow citizens die than have a government set up by, for, and of the people do anything about it.  His position is that, without the dang gubmint getting in the way, private charity will pick up the slack.

This is not only something Ron Paul just says, he really and truly believes this crap.    Truly….

At CNN’s Tea Party-indulging debateon Monday, Ron Paul, a medical doctor, faced a pointed line of questioning from Wolf Blitzer regarding the case of an uninsured young man who suddenly found himself in dire need of intensive health care.

Should the state pay his bills? Paul responded, “That’s what freedom is all about: taking your own risks. This whole idea that you have to take care of everybody—”

He never quite finished that point, letting the audience’s loud applause finish it for him. So Blitzer pressed on, asking if he meant that “society should just let him die,” which earned a chilling round of approving hoots from the crowd. Paul would not concede that much outright, instead responding with a personal anecdote, the upshot being that in such a case, it was up to churches to care for the dying young man. So basically, yeah. He’d let him die.

As it turns out, Paul was not speaking purely in hypotheticals. Back in 2008, Kent Snyder — Paul’s former campaign chairman — died of complications from pneumonia. Like the man in Blitzer’s example, the 49-year-old Snyder (pictured) was relatively young and seemingly healthy* when the illness struck. He was also uninsured. When he died on June 26, 2008, two weeks after Paul withdrew his first bid for the presidency, his hospital costs amounted to $400,000. The bill was handed to Snyder’s surviving mother (pictured, left), who was incapable of paying. Friends launched a website to solicit donations.

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It’s actually this last bit I want to talk about.   One of the things that Ron Paul said would alleviate these issues, absent any sort of government rules or regulations, are private charities.  In this case we have $400,000 in bills racked up without insurance…and so a fundraising drive was started to cover these.  According to Ron Paul, this should work out fine.

How did that work out?

Even for someone intimately connected to the power brokers at the top of the food chain, even after paying the ultimate Libertarian price, Ron Paul’s ideas don’t work.

Now try and apply those same ideas to everyone….and you see that they work even less.

Questions for Republicans And Livebloggin the First Debate

First up a is a quick video I made the other day.  It’s got a couple of those “gotcha” basic, simple questions that illustrate the fundamental issues with the Republican worldview in the 21st century.    That’s here…

My liveblogging notes are below.   A couple things that I’ve noticed in retrospect: 1) Every single candidate endorsed or doubled down on George W. Bush’s policies. If you thought he was an anomaly, forget it.  He’s the model of a 21st century Republican.   2) They never, ever mentioned the last guy who did what they want to do, or how that led directly to economic catastrohpe and the need for a “failed stimulus”.

Live notes are below…the full transcipt can be read here.

RobotPirateNinja: So far, five ads have loaded and launched perfectly. The debate itself, however, crashes every time, on every browser.

CNN, this is why you’re a joke.

RobotPirateNinja:  Wow, the EPA stands for “Job Killing Administration”. I did not know that.  (Bachmann)

RobotPirateNinja: Looks like “cut taxes” is the answer to everything, including the debt.

RobotPirateNinja: Everyone does know that “right to work” means “right to get fired for any reason” right?

RobotPirateNinja: I love how after the car bailout worked, it’s now a failure.  Wild. All of these folks wanted to sell GM to China.

RobotPirateNinja: Newt: “We can’t go to space anymore. Those robots on Mars? Obviously the opposite of innovation.”

RobotPirateNinja: ‎”NASA is in the way of the future.” – Newt….wild…this is crazy trumping crazy, multiplied by nuts.

RobotPirateNinja:

NEVER, EVER, HIRE SOMEONE FOR A JOB THAT HATES THE JOB.

You wouldn’t hire a dogcatcher that hates dogs, why elect a President that hates government? A window washer afraid of heights? No.

I’m watching this “who can hate government the most contest”…and then I’m thinking…all of these people are running for a government job…and they hate government…this is insane. It does explain most of their positions, though.

RobotPirateNinja: Hermain Cain is going to put 13,000,000 people to work…by not spending a dime. He’ll tell you how right after he’s elected.

RobotPirateNinja: Why do these folks want to keep sending money to the private sector, when private profits have never been higher, and public debt is the same (never higher)?

My god, Romney just said we need to return money to the private sector…THEN TALKED ABOUT THE DEBT. These people don’t even get the basics…or maybe it’s the people they are trying to appeal to that don’t understand.

RobotPirateNinja: oooh, fun, the Ryan Plan….Pawlenty…we’re just screwing over your kid, it’s all right.

RobotPirateNinja: Check that, Pawlenty has his OWN plan…the rush from Ryan begins.

RobotPirateNinja: John King is pathetic…”uh…uh….uh…..uh…….uh…….uh.” Just cut their dang mic.

RobotPirateNinja: Newt points out that the Ryan Plan is toxic….oh…but he’s killing Medicaid. (which largely goes to poor…old people).

RobotPirateNinja: Santorum jumps in with two feet. Ryan Plan all the way. This is why he’s not a serious candidate.

RobotPirateNinja: Herman Cain, the reason we have problems is because they haven’t been solved yet. Yes…Herman…the Ryan Plan *does* throw that grandkid out the chair…ummm…you just railed against your own idea.

RobotPirateNinja: Chil-ay. Cool place, I guess.

RobotPirateNinja: Here comes the Galveston fact-check, I’m guessing Herman loses…we’ll see…  [Ed: I was right. They aren’t even close to the same thing.]

RobotPirateNinja:

Debt Limit question…lady asked it wrong (we’ve already hit it, did a month ago, we are currently smashing piggy banks to pay bills)

Romney…we won’t raise it unless Obama stops being all socialisty….but not leading like his hair would. … Romney goes on to bash the U.S. economy and our debt….never mentions the word Taxes…or how the budget was balanced 10 years ago. I wish a questioner would mention how Bush said his tax cuts  in 2001 would wipe out the deficit by 2009.   [or how his 2005 Budget would “cut it in half” by 2009].

RobotPirateNinja: Bachmann on debt ceiling – I voted to default…and will again.

RobotPirateNinja: ‎Bachmann: “Pay the interest first, the soldiers and seniors later.”

RobotPirateNinja: Wow…Pawlenty…first amendment says nothing about keeping religion out of Government. Really…wow…

[Pawlenty quote:  “Well, the protections between the separation of church and state were designed to protect people of faith from government, not government from people of faith.”

This statement says a great deal about the current state of the Republican party.   They really do think imposing religion on government is o.k., it’s just the opposite that is bad (oh, and Muslims are bad).]

RobotPirateNinja: Pawlenty – Founders were all the same religion as me.

RobotPirateNinja: Frothy Mixture – I use faith and reason…when reason backs up my faith, otherwise, faith all the way.

RobotPirateNinja: Frothy Mixture was going for a standing ovation…he got silence.

RobotPirateNinja: Ron Paul – People can’t learn to be moral. Jeez, you can’t make this stuff up.

[Note: I missed Ron Paul’s other stunning revelation about the Constitution of Paultard land…there is no separation of Church and state, and the first amendment was written specifically to protect Christians:

Ron Paul: “But the Constitution addresses this by saying — literally, it says no theocracy. But it doesn’t talk about church and state. The most important thing is the First Amendment. Congress shall write no laws — which means Congress should never prohibit the expression of your Christian faith in a public place.“]

RobotPirateNinja: Herman Cain informs there are two types of Muslims, peaceful and THOSE THAT WANT TO KILL US. He doesn’t like the second one. He will NOT IMPOSE SHARIAH LAW. Jeez…

[Actual exchange:
“Q:Are American-Muslims as a group less committed to the Constitution than, say, Christian or Jews?

CAIN: First, the statement was would I be comfortable with a Muslim in my administration, not that I wouldn’t appoint one. That’s the exact transcript.

And I would not be comfortable because you have peaceful Muslims and then you have militant Muslims, those that are trying to kill us.

And so, when I said I wouldn’t be comfortable, I was thinking about the ones that are trying to kill us, number one.”]

RobotPirateNinja: Romney – Rational one about Muslims…comes from being in a cult, and knowing how it feels to be looked down on for that.

RobotPirateNinja: Woah…Newt goes out on a “limb” and would require loyalty oaths…cause, you know…Muslims lie.

[Actual derp:  GINGRICH: “I just want to comment for a second. The Pakistani who emigrated to the U.S. became a citizen, built a car bomb which luckily failed to go off in Times Square was asked by the federal judge, how could he have done that when he signed — when he swore an oath to the United States. And he looked at the judge and said, “You’re my enemy. I lied.”

Now, I just want to go out on a limb here. I’m in favor of saying to people, if you’re not prepared to be loyal to the United States, you will not serve in my administration, period.”

It should be noted that lying on loyalty oaths is totally not cool in a time of war, which is why they work so good.]

RobotPirateNinja: Herman Cain on pizza preference – “Deep Dish”…first thing he’s said tonight that was a clear answer.

RobotPirateNinja: Missed the gay-bashing segment.

RobotPirateNinja: Bachman – I would support an Amendment banning state marriage, but I’m not going to mess with states. She was able to contradict herself in a single question.

 [BACHMANN: John, I do support a constitutional amendment on — on marriage between a man and a woman, but I would not be going into the states to overturn their state law.]

RobotPirateNinja:  

Herman Cain – I wouldn’t have let gays die openly for our country, but I wouldn’t change it.
Pawlenty – As CinC I would let me generals tell me what do to.
Paul – We shouldn’t have an army.
Romney – DADT should be kept until we “win” the War on Terror.
Newt – Blah, blah, blah, no answer.
Bachmann – I would go back to DADT, and Newt’s answer.

[Note: Bachmann “would want to confer with our commanders-in-chief and with — also with the Joint Chiefs of Staff,”   Note for the non-idiots: Bachmann is actually running to *become* Commander-in-Chief (hint: there’s only one).]

Can we vote her off this show?

RobotPirateNinja: Santorum – I hate gays, and we should go back and punish everyone who came out under the new, fair, policy.

RobotPirateNinja: Look at Santorum’s record….you lost your last election by 18%. You are off the island.

RobotPirateNinja: Bachmann – I’m so pro-life I think woman who are raped and get pregnant should be thankful God blessed them with that LIFE.

RobotPirateNinja: Pawlenty mentions the NRO as a self-back pat…ugh.

RobotPirateNinja: Legal vs. Illegation softball question….here comes the derpfest…

RobotPirateNinja: Santorum – Jesus said to love and care for everyone, except illegal immigrants, who we should kick out of hospitals.

[Santorum: A lot of folks run for president as pro-life and then that issue gets shoved to the back burner. I will tell you that the issue of pro-life, the sanctity and dignity of every human life, not just at birth, not just on the issue of abortion, but with respect to the entire life, which I mentioned welfare reform and — and the dignity of people at the end of life, those issues will be top priority issues for me to make sure that all life is respected and held with dignity.

vs.

SANTORUM: Well, I’m the son of a legal immigrant in this country and — and believe in legal immigration. That is a great wellspring of — of strength for our country.

But we cannot continue to provide — the federal government should not require states to provide government services. [note: like HOSPITALS]

RobotPirateNinja: ‎5-year old kid walks into a hospital…should the priority be to check his green card…Ron Paul…Yes, he should not get healthcare if he’s not American.

RobotPirateNinja: ‎”Freedom has SOLVED these problems before!?!” – Ron Paul

[Actual derp:

KING: A 5-year-old child of an illegal immigrant walks into an emergency room. Does the child get care?

PAUL: [Random derp about what Paul calls “freedom”.]

KING: But should they get care? Should they get care? Should taxpayers have to pay for that care?

PAUL: No, they should not be forced to, but we wouldn’t — we shouldn’t be penalizing the Catholic Church, because they’re trying to fulfill a role. And some of the anti-immigrants want to come down hard on the Catholic Church, and that is wrong.

PAUL: (making it absolutely clear that Doctors should first check greencards)  “But, no, if you have an understanding and — and you want to believe in freedom, freedom has solved these kind of problems before. You don’t have to say, oh, you’re not going to have care or there won’t be any care and everybody is going to starve to death and — and die on the streets without medical care. That’s the implication of the question. That’s just not true, and you shouldn’t accept it.”

See folks?!  Who need medical care when you have FREEDOM from medical care?]

RobotPirateNinja: Birthright Citizenship…should be change the entire nature of this country and what it means to be American?

Cain – Immediately.
Pawlenty – Supports Alabama and Arizona law. No more birthrights for citizens.

RobotPirateNinja: Newt – Blames America’s problems on the hyperbole of partisans. Really, he does this with a straight face.

RobotPirateNinja: Newt – Put DHS people…I guess the BSA…like the TSA (i.e. created “small government Republicans”) on the Border.

RobotPirateNinja: Paul – Right now we don’t own our land, get off my yard, really, get off my yard!

RobotPirateNinja: Romney – Drill, drill, clean coal….clean coal? Has that been invented yet? No…then why did he…oh…

RobotPirateNinja: Sanatorum – 5 more years of ethanol subsidies (Hi Iowa!) but then no more…just enough to get him elected twice…

RobotPirateNinja:

Question from soldiers dad: Bin Laden is Dead…should we leave Afghanistan…(guessing no one will slam Obama for killing him.)

Romney – Gives effuse praise to…the guy asking the question. Wants the Afghanistanis to fight against the Ta…liban by themselves, I wonder if he knows where the Taliban is from.

[Actual Derp: ROMNEY: Let me — let me continue. That is I think we’ve learned some important lessons in our experience in Afghanistan. I want those troops to come home based upon not politics, not based upon economics, but instead based upon the conditions on the ground determined by the generals.

But I also think we’ve learned that our troops shouldn’t go off and try and fight a war of independence for another nation. Only the Afghanis can win Afghanistan’s independence from the Taliban. Thank you. ]

Paul – Actually says, and probably doesn’t realize it because he’s on a rant…that he would “spend that money” here. (No he wouldn’t, he’s against spending money here, or there or anywhere there might be green eggs and ham)

RobotPirateNinja: Libya

Bachmann – We should have watched Quadaffi slaughter them. She wouldn’t “lead from behind” by not even being involved. FRANCE! That’s all we need to know. “I deal with the nation’s classified secrets…which I will now casually reveal to you…oh…um…Al Qeada was there, which is why I wouldn’t have not led from behind.”

[Actual Derp: KING: Congresswoman Bachmann, should the president have supported and jointed more U.S. presence, but now a NATO operation? Was that the right thing to do? Is that in the vital national interest of the United States of America?

BACHMANN: No, I don’t believe so it is. That isn’t just my opinion. That was the opinion of our defense secretary, Gates, when he came before the United States Congress. He could not identify a vital national American interest in Libya.

Our policy in Libya is substantially flawed. It’s interesting. President Obama’s own people said that he was leading from behind. The United States doesn’t lead from behind. As commander in chief, I would not lead from behind.

We are the head. We are not the tail. The president was wrong. All we have to know is the president deferred leadership in Libya to France. That’s all we need to know. The president was not leading when it came to Libya. ”

She goes on to imply that Quadaffi is fighting Al Qaeda…I’m not sure at this point if she thinks we should be on *his* side.]

RobotPirateNinja: Newt – 10 years from 9/11 our intelligence is so innaccurate…we got Bin Laden you jackass.

[Actual Derp: “But I think what Congresswoman Bachmann just said ought to really sober everybody about how much trouble we’re in. Ten years after 9/11, our intelligence is so inadequate that we have no idea what percent of the Libyan rebels are, in fact, al Qaeda. Libya was the second largest producer of people who wanted to kill Americans in Iraq.”

Looks like Newt is warming up to Quadaffi as well.   Truly, this is bizarro world.]

RobotPirateNinja: Newt – would cut and run as quickly as possible from everywhere. Then he’d gather intelligence.

Cain – Again says we didn’t understand the problem. We don’t know. Grandma says “they are are not simple situations, it’s an absolute mess. And we can’t make a decision until we learn from the commanders in the field whether or not to deploy commanders to the field.”

[Actual derp: KING: Mr. Cain, take 30 seconds, please. People might say he’s a businessman. He has no experience in government. How would you look at your responsibilities, draw that line, vital U.S. national interests as commander in chief?

CAIN: It starts with making sure we understand the problem, which I don’t think we did. We didn’t have the intelligence. Number two, is it in the vital interest of the United States of America? If the answer is no, then we don’t go any further. If it’s not in the vital interest of America, To paraphrase my grandmother, with the situation in Libya and many of these other situations, they’re not simple situations. It’s a mess. It’s just an absolute mess.

And there’s more that we don’t know than we do know, so it will be very difficult to know exactly what we do until, like others have said, we learn from the commanders in the field.   [NOTE: Q: When you don’t have commanders in the field, like we didn’t in Libya…what do you do?  A: Derp!]]

RobotPirateNinja: Question: Military Funding…debt…hullo?

Santorum – Clinton did that…but anyway…we need a strategy, to, uh, asymmetric terrorism, so we need that base, and attack, anywhere and everywhere. The Soviets might attack at any time.

RobotPirateNinja: Santorum – Everybody in the world hates us, which is why we had to go it alone in Libya.

RobotPirateNinja: Missed the weak field question…kinda been pointing that out all along.

RobotPirateNinja: Who made the best choice for VP in 2008?

Pawlenty – Laughs, slams Biden, repeatedly…some something that isn’t happening. Palin is qualified to be President. And we’re done there…
Romney – We’d all be better than Obama. Obama doesn’t have a foreign policy…nice sarcastic contratulations on getting Bin Laden…that will be a headline tomorrow.

RobotPirateNinja: Bachmann – let’s do it American Idol style…sick…

RobotPirateNinja: Ron Paul – Can you stomach any of these people? No. FEDERAL RESERVE!!

RobotPirateNinja: Frothy Mixture impressed. Bachmann learned more in two hours about the goodness of the American people (she never finished the “than” part of that butt-kissing).
Paul – We can be civil slamming the President for everything he’s done and hasn’t done.

RobotPirateNinja: Hermain Cain – It’s about the children and grandchildren…which is why I want to get rid of Medicare for them. …..

And we’re done here…it’s spin time.

PREDICTION: Romney’s sarcastic praise of Obama for killing Bin Laden will be the lede.

UPDATE: I was wrong…seems lot of other media folks don’t like pointing out obvious logical contradictions and think Bachmann did well.   Wild.

Ron Paul figures fifth time is the charm…

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…he’s still wrong.

The news:

Ron Paul, the patriarch of the libertarian stream in GOP politics, will announce on Tuesday that he is forming a presidential exploratory committee, taking a step to join the Republican nomination sweepstakes.

Paul, who will be 76 in August, has served about 20 years in the House representing districts in Texas, most recently the 14th, which includes Galveston. He is a doctor by training, having served as a flight surgeon in the Air Force and in private practice as a gynecologist.

Ronald Reagan, BTW, was old as heck in office, had Alzheimer’s and was still much younger than Paul when running.

I’m thinking being well beyond mandatory retirement age is probably a detriment to have the new, fresh ideas we need to deal with the 21st century.    Ron Paul’s devotees are some of the funniest, most passionate, and least informed (with actual facts…they’ve got TONS of other data) people you meet.  The majority is his strongest supporters are truthers, birthers, and anti-gubmint nuts, all of which seem to love Paul’s only solution to every single societal problem: less government.

The sad thing about this ideology is that a) it’s utterly inflexible and b) reality has no bearing on it (which are kinda the same thing).   Paul is one those people who actively campaign on how government can’t do anything right, and then does his best to make that come true once elected.

He’s not a serious candidate, at least if you consider some hope of winning a necessity for “seriousness” but given our media’s ability to monetize stupidity (see: Trump, Donald), he’ll stick around for a while and his supporters will lament that his lack of support is because  no one really knows what is going on and they are all just sheeple.

The rest of us know that’s exactly why  he gets so little popular support and such huge passionate support.