Petraeus on Palin’s “Victory” Campaign

The outgoing commander of US troops in Iraq, Gen David Petraeus, has said that he will never declare victory there.

In a BBC interview, Gen Petraeus said that recent security gains were “not irreversible” and that the US still faced a “long struggle”.

He said he did not know that he would ever use the word “victory”: “This is not the sort of struggle where you take a hill, plant the flag and go home to a victory parade… it’s not war with a simple slogan.”

BBC NEWS | Middle East | No victory in Iraq, says Petraeus.

[quick note….this is why I use the tag “victory” over there in the tag cloud…so…yea…me and Petraeus are the same page there]

[another quick note…why all the Palin crap? Because it’s hilarious and historic. This is one of the bigger snowjobs in history. The most recent being the one about Iraq being a danger to the U.S. I saw through those lies and I see through these. We all see, now, how that turned out. And McCain/Palin is nothing more than Bush/Cheney with the roles reversed, i.e. the out-of-touch Cold Warrior at the top and the likable everymanwoman with a deep faith and profound ignorance of the world outside his her state on the bottom. ]

Now the meat…Palin quotes…

…on Obama

And there is much to like and admire about our opponent.

But listening to him speak, it’s easy to forget that this is a man who has authored two memoirs but not a single major law or reform – not even in the state senate. [ed note: not true]

This is a man who can give an entire speech about the wars America is fighting, and never use the word “victory” except when he’s talking about his own campaign.

…on McCain…

He’s a man who wore the uniform of this country for 22 years, and refused to break faith with those troops in Iraq who have now brought victory within sight.

…on Iraq…

Victory in Iraq is finally in sight ..

And just as a reminder from the guy on the ground…the one running the “surge”…

[Petraeus] said he did not know that he would ever use the word “victory”: “This is not the sort of struggle where you take a hill, plant the flag and go home to a victory parade… it’s not war with a simple slogan.”

Looking at the single interview that Saran Palin has been so gracious to grant to her adoring public, it’s pretty evident that explaining the real nature of the conflict would be completely lost to her. Learning cultural nuance and history isn’t something you cram for, it’s something you study for years and only the people with a real passion for it ever get close to having decent grasp on things.

And someone should point out that tying 9/11 to Iraq, as she has done a number of times while pimping her son, is a sign of a deep and dangerous ignorance.

BTW, I completely believe she is pimping her son. This is a boy who was “adamant” about not wanting any publicity for his enlistment. I have a working theory on why that is, and because Palin has used him so blatantly to cover her own lack of patriotism (if your husband being in a secessionist party is anything like having a wife who’s black, this whole patriotism thing needs to be looked at again), I think it is time to share.

It entirely possible to have a son in a war and not trumpet it to the rooftops, and use it like it’s a qualification for being Commander-in-Chief. McCain was able to stand on his own decisions, why can’t Sarah?

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McCain, Iraq : Can You Guess What He Said?

ABC News: McCain: Iraq Pullout May Mean Genocide

In a major address in California on foreign policy, the presumptive Republican nominee said, “It would be an unconscionable act of betrayal, a stain on our character as a great nation, if we were to walk away from the Iraqi people and consign them to the horrendous violence, ethnic cleansing and possibly genocide that would follow a reckless, irresponsible and premature withdrawal.”McCain Sees Progress in Iraq

Speaking to the Los Angeles World Affairs Council, McCain, who has supported the war from the beginning, pointed to what he said were signs of progress: a decrease in violence and civilian and military deaths, Iraqis returning to work, markets open, and oil revenues increasing.

All of which is true, if you look at a three-day period in late 2007.   This is a guy who had a tougher reception in Iraq than Ahmedinijad.  Of course *every* U.S. political visitor had a tougher visit than ole Mahmoud.  I wonder what that says about the prospects of a long term presence/dominance of the region?

Three Days to Peace (ha)

Iraqi PM gives Basra gunmen ultimatum – Yahoo News

BAGHDAD – Iraq’s prime minister on Wednesday gave gunmen in the southern oil port of Basra three days to surrender their weapons and renounce violence as clashes between security forces and Shiite militia fighters erupted for a second day.

Suspected Shiite extremists also unleashed rockets or mortars against the U.S.-protected Green Zone in central Baghdad for the third day this week.

Three Americans were seriously injured in the attacks, U.S. Embassy spokeswoman Mirembe Nantongo said. At least eight Iraqis also were killed after rounds fell short in several areas of Baghdad.

At least 55 people have been killed and 300 wounded in Basra and Baghdad after the fighting spread to the capital’s main Shiite district of Sadr City, police and hospital officials said.

Yea, the war is almost over.  Only three more days!!  Woohoo!

Too bad not many people in Iraq actually listen to anything the central government says, but that’s a small price to pay for freedom.

The War is Strong In This One

John McCain is betting big on Iraq – Los Angeles Times

Before the war, McCain predicted a quick and easy victory, not a vicious insurgency. He issued dire warnings about Saddam Hussein’s supposed weapons of mass destruction but didn’t read the full 2002 National Intelligence Estimate that showed gaps in the intelligence.Soon after the March 2003 invasion, however, he began criticizing the Bush administration’s management in Iraq and clashed repeatedly with then-Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld. In mid-2003, he started advocating a larger U.S. force to battle the insurgency, a strategy the White House finally approved last year.

McCain did not publicly embrace or join the hard-core neoconservatives who pushed hardest to unleash the U.S. military against Baghdad before the war. But McCain backed many of the same policies.

I have to like McCain. Part Robot, Part Pirate.   Ninjas don’t get caught, so he fails on that one.

Yon Bush Stuck in Infinite Victory Loop

Bush to hail prospect of Iraq “strategic victory” – Yahoo! News

WASHINGTON (Reuters) – President George W. Bush will acknowledge on Wednesday the Iraq war has been fought at a high cost but will insist a U.S. troop buildup has opened the door to a “major strategic victory” against Islamic militants.

“The successes we are seeing in Iraq are undeniable,” Bush will say in an upbeat assessment of the U.S.-led campaign in a speech marking the fifth anniversary of the war, according to excerpts released on Tuesday.

With less than 11 months left in office and his approval ratings near the lows of his presidency, Bush is trying to shore up support for the unpopular war, which has damaged U.S. credibility abroad and is sure to define his legacy.

Hmmm, how can we encapsulate this one….

Worst Pretzeldent Ever

In straight robot: “Does not compute.  Does not compute.”